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PostSubject: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:22 pm

Muzzleloader season is coming in this Saturday , so I finally got out to sight in my gun with BH 209 .

I tried BH 209 once a couple years ago with my V1 , but I was getting hang fires with it , so I went back to T7 .

I bought a modified breech plug from Carlos this year and my firing pin bushing was already shimmed .

I found out today it might not have been the BH 209 causing the hang fires , but the CCI magnum primers . I had 2 misfires , where the primer went off , but didn't even move the bullet and I had 1 hang fire that caused me to miss the whole target while shooting my best group .

Distance : 100 paces
Bullet : Barnes Expander MZ 250 gr. .
Primer : CCI 209 magnum
Powder : BH 209
Rest : Bullsbag & Shoulder

3 Shoot Groups

1st Group 100 gr. : 1.90
2nd Group 95 gr. :  2.25
3rd Group 90 gr. :  .771 ( 2 bullets touching )
4th Group 85 gr. :   1.64

I cleaned both ends of the breech plug with a drill bit after each group . I didn't clean the barrel until I finished for the day ( 13 rounds , easy loading ) .

The misfires and hang fire has me a little worried . Should I try a new box of CCI primers or a different brand of primers ?
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:38 pm

The problem may be with your headspace? Different primers have different thicknesses and perhaps the firing pin isn't making full contact.

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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:42 pm

With BH-209 make sure you have no blow back into the breech area, all the flame needs to go into the powder to ignite it. Also the bullet needs to be seated firmly onto the powder. I use Win.209 primers with all my Knights and have no problems even in sub zero weather.

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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:45 pm

Does it have a 5/32" flash channel? the factory 3mm is very restrictive.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:51 pm

I am getting no blowback and the primer has a deep dent in it .

Carlo's modified it for BH209 , I don't know what size it is . I think it is 5/32 though .
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 6:59 pm

Does it look like this? If not,thats probably why its still hang firing. We used to drill the flash holes out to .035" and the flash channel to 5/32" but could still get hang fires from time to time.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 26th 2014, 7:12 pm

It doesn't look like that , it's a V1 plug and takes a wrench to remove .

It was like the primer was a dud on the misfires . I heard a light pop from the primer and like I said it never move the seated bullet . I marked my rod after each new load , so I was able to check .
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 5:12 am

Have you cleaned your flash channel with a drill bit ?  That can make all the difference as well as making sure you are compacting the charge.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 2:27 pm

I cleaned the flash hole and flash channel out with a drill bit after each 3 shot group and it was a brand new breech plug .

I wasn't compacting the charge very much , once I felt the bullet hit the powder I stopped pushing and marked my ramrod for that charge .
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 2:42 pm

ahhhhh that will do it. Try to seat it with upper body weight pressure. Trying to do it consistently takes practice but it should help improve your ignition greatly.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 2:48 pm

So BH209 needs a heavy seating pressure ?
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 4:02 pm

Not so much heavy, but it does need to have the projectile seated firmly. Just do it consistent from one shot to the next.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 6:15 pm

Thanks , I will try that and hope it solves my problem .
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 27th 2014, 7:51 pm

What I try to do is after the bullet stops on the charge I try to stand on the rod one time every time I load.
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 28th 2014, 5:56 pm

Thanks for the help .

I really liked the results I got from 90 gr. of BH209 , so I hope I can trust it in a hunting environment .
Not to mention how easy it is to load round after round without swabbing .
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PostSubject: Re: Accura V1 & BH 209    October 28th 2014, 7:12 pm

red rick wrote:
Thanks for the help .

I really liked the results I got from 90 gr. of BH209 , so I hope I can trust it in a hunting environment .
Not to mention how easy it is to load round after round without swabbing .
You will be able to trust it in a hunting enviroment, you have the fun part done, Now go shoot a big one.
Good luck.

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