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PostSubject: Removing rust from the bore.    November 7th 2014, 5:31 pm

Hi to all.This is my first post.

Back to the topic. I recently purchased a well used T/C Hawken kit rifle. As far as I can tell with a flashlight and an inspection camera the bore isn't pitted. It does have a fair amount of rust.First cleaning was with hot soapy water and a hot rinse. Fired three rounds with BP. Shooting from about 30yards, I could hit the target. For me with iron sights, that's quite an accomplishment. Cleaned it again with hot soapy water and rinsed. All the powder fouling was removed, but the patches had a rust color.
Next cleaning was with Clover fine lapping compound followed by another hot bath. JB bore paste was next. A lot of very rusty patches after all that. I've been running a Ballistol patch down it and letting it sit all day, then a dry patch followed by another Ballistol patch. Still to much rust for my liking. After 2 weeks I'm ready to try a chemical solution. Any proven rust removal concoctions? 

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James
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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 7th 2014, 5:45 pm

Welcome to the forum James! Great to have another muzzle loader shooter with us.

Ballistol will produce a rust color fouling. It supposedly soaks into the pours and lifts out what ever fouling is there over time and it leaves a brownish red residue.

Remington 40x bore cleaner has done well for me. Just do around 30 to 50 strokes with a real good snug patch, hot water bath flushing, dry it, and then oil it. I've its still rusty, I'd easily suspect some kind of pitting thats causing the fouling to be so bad.

But the ballistol most likely is the reason for the rust looking patches.
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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 7th 2014, 5:51 pm

First off WELCOME to the forum. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Now this is what I used.........Get some EVAPO-RUST. Bought mine at Pep Boys......
Remove the barrel and get a bucket. Stick a tooth pick in the nipple hole so it prevents the solution from coming out. Set the barrel in the bucket and put it in a corner so the barrel stays up right. Now fill the barrel to the top WITHOUT LETTING IT RUN OVER AND RUN DOWN THE BARREL ON THE OUTSIDE, and let it sit for 2 or 3 days if it's really rusty. Most time I let my barrel sit was 48 hrs. Check it every once in a while so you fill it to the top again if the tooth pick/nipple is leaking.
Worked for me and removed the rust in my .54.............Good luck Exclamation Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 8th 2014, 5:06 am

FrontierGander & Hawgslayer,thanks for the tips.

I'll put Rem 40x bore cleaner and Evapo-Rust on my to get list.

FG,I hope you are correct about the Ballistol.

I would like to save the Hawken. It has a nice piece of wood under a not so good finish, the brass hardware is in good condition, and the set trigger breaks clean. If it shoots straight, after removing all or most of the rust from the bore. I'll work on refinishing the stock.

Thanks Again

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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 8th 2014, 9:57 am

JPat,

FG is on the ball about Ballistol.  I've used it for the last 4-5 years and when I leave it in a rifle for a month or two that first patch always looks light orange particularly with a sidelock.  I am guessing that it penetrates the pores in the breeching area and either leeches preservative or rust or fouling out of that area.

I use that stuff on my service weapons and no matter the weather I never get rust on them and they are out in more bad weather than my ml's.
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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 8th 2014, 6:24 pm

Just try convincing the ancient ones over on the traditional forum of that! They know what rust looks like and DON'T EVEN suggest there might be residual rust in their perfect guns with their perfect system.
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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 10th 2014, 2:58 pm

Picked up a can of WD40 Specialist, costs less than Rem40X bore cleaner Smile . Saturated the bore and left it for 2 days. Seems to have removed most of the rust. I can now see the grooves down toward the breechplug with a flashlight.

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PostSubject: Re: Removing rust from the bore.    November 10th 2014, 3:06 pm

stude 283 wrote:
Just try convincing the ancient ones over on the traditional forum of that! They know what rust looks like and DON'T EVEN suggest there might be residual rust in their perfect guns with their perfect system.

My old perfect system. Which worked well for me 20+ years ago. Never had a rust problem. Was to use T/C Bore Butter after a hot water/ with dish soap bath and a good boiling rinse.
Since discovering the internet,so it must be true Laughing . I haven't read many positive comments about Bore Butter. I'm now a Ballistol convert, since getting the front stuffer itch again.

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