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PostSubject: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 4:33 pm

My CVA .58 Flinter was delivered today. Doesn't look too bad, I'm pleased.  The stock has some handling marks, light surface scratches but nothing deep.  The barrel serial number is 0004807.  Not sure what that is telling me.  The barrel needs cleaning, both in and out.  When I shine a flashlight down the barrel it looks shiny but when I ran a couple patches down it with some Break-Free on them they came out a little rusty.  No black powder residue at all.  It's going to take a little work getting it to Jon's standards.  Very Happy The rifle stock is actually a real nice brown color.  The picture looks more of a reddish tone.


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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 4:48 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 5:12 pm

gotta love all that.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 5:30 pm

Oh yeah ya! Thats a builder for damn sure! Make sure you bed the tang and trigger plate! The improvement made me damn near pass out from all the screaming on the range from excitement LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 5:55 pm

I agree.  This would be a nice muzzleloader to re-do and make respectful again.  Besides, I have never done one so it will be a good project for me, and I have the time....... I'm retired.  Smile 

I did send an email to CVA to see if they could give me some history on the barrel from the serial number.  0004807 seems like an early model.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 6:12 pm

Yes, with that being a big bore model, thats an early model. Its not the super early model as that one had Hexagon ramrod thimbles but still a great rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 8:14 pm

t up
Gonna be nice when it's done Exclamation Good luck with it Joe :rtup

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 5th 2015, 8:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 11:29 am

Heck, I'd just bed it, assemble it, and 'choot' it. It would wind up being beat up by me in a short time anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 12:20 pm

Well...I was working on cleaning the outside of the barrel.  I removed the rib to take a look underneath and found no rust just some oil accumulating, the same with the sights.  I didn't want the fiber optic sights on a flintlock. I don't think they had those in the early 1800's.  Very Happy  

I rubbed it down with oil and the rags were looking very dirty.  So I rubbed it down good with some Flitz paste. A lot of the the old bluing is coming off. That will need to be re-done for sure.

Pato, I have to have a "perty" front stuffer before I can just 'choot' it.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 12:21 pm

Just remember that the MR barrels were originally browned. You get to have some fun now!
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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 12:23 pm

Joe, as Forrest said, "Purty is as purty does."

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 4:24 pm

that would make a nice rifle for hunting the pa flintlock season.. did you get it from gunbroker.?
is seen one on there but being xmas time I passed on it.

 I did bid on a gun a moth or so ago  a tc hawken 58 cal. with the 1-66 twist barrel. from the tc/fox ridge outfitters shop.but I tapped out at 800.00. it went for over a thousand bucks.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 4:50 pm

I actually got it on another auction site....GunAuction.com.  It sounds like the one you were bidding on was a rare gem, being a .58 cal and 1:66 twist.  I believe most are 1:48 barrels.  A T/C Big Boar just sold on Gun Broker for $861 and change also.
 
I did put a cleaning rod with a patch down the barrel to measure the twist in my CVA.  It did a half twist in 31".  That would make it a 1:62 twist???  I think it is more likely a 1:66.  I wanted it for patch & ball and that's why I bid on it, that and it was a .58.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 5:08 pm

I bid on the t/c big boar OMG

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 6th 2015, 5:22 pm

There is an Investarms .58 cal percussion Hawken on the GunsAmerica.com site.  $325.00. The nice thing about that site is there's NO Bidding!

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 8th 2015, 12:59 pm

I worked on my .58 cal barrel today.  I'm getting it ready for browning or bluing.  I haven't really decided yet. There are some very small imperfections but I'm not going to worry about those.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 8:08 am

I'm a little bummed....I think I will be looking for another CVA Mountain Rifle stock (1" across the flats) to refinish.  The one I purchased has several cracks.  I can still use it to practice finishing a stock.





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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 9:49 am

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Heck, I'd just bed it, assemble it, and 'choot' it. It would wind up being beat up by me in a short time anyway.
I agree with Bob. Make a shooter out of her.
Other than the appearance the cracks aren't a show stopper in my opinion.

Take all the metal off the stock. Drill small holes, say 1/8 or 5/32 across the cracks wherever you can find enough meat left. Whittle some ever so slightly tapered hardwood pegs to fit the holes.  Pry the cracks gently open, dampen them and force in some gorilla glue. Then quickly drive in your pre-fit repair dowels. Use lots of clamps and rubber bands or black elec tape to force the cracks very tightly closed and let er dry. Wait a day then worry bout removing any squeezed out glue and trimming ends of pegs. Might have to carve or rasp it off then sand and refinish stock but the cracks should not open up again.
It will be a shooter, not a looker.

Also ask someone on this site where the metal should meet the wood, (bedding) to assure the wood bears the recoil without further damage. Keep the screws tight too.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 10:02 am

Ok, thanks, good idea.  Really, my guns don't sit in a display case for looking at, there for huntin' and shootin'. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 11:37 am

Ouch! Thats from a poor fitting tang bedding job.

Give deer creek a call for a replacement stock, They may have factory finished but for sure, kit stocks. 765.525.6181


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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 11:39 am

see photos that I posted.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 11:40 am

got it, they didnt load until I hit send.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 12th 2015, 4:15 pm

Joe, just bed the breach end of the barrel and tang and the edge of the lock after channeling out like Alpa8D suggested. It won't be pretty on the outside but will strengthen it considerably for shooting purposes. It's a quick easy way of making it functional as a back-up stock.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA .58 Flinter came in   January 14th 2015, 6:41 am

I agree with you Pato. I'm going to use this stock as a back-up.  This stock will give me an opportunity to learn to do a few things I haven't done before.  Example; bedding the breech end of the barrel and re-finishing the stock.  I've already stripped the finish using Citrisrip Gel and did some sanding.  I did borrow my wife's steam iron (with permission) and steamed the stock over a wet shop towel to remove as much finish as possible. 

For the cracks, I took a 3/32" bit, drilled a hole as carefully as possible.  Filled the hole with Titebond II wood glue and then covered a large round tooth pick with glue and drove it in the hole.  Sanded it off, not very noticeable at all.  Will it work?....time will tell.

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