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PostSubject: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 27th 2015, 8:38 pm

I have not used gun oil on my black powder firearms 
because I have frequently been told I should not. No



But, no one ever tells me, why. Just that BAD things 
will happen. I used the old soap and water method-
even though I avoid water on everything else that can 
rust. confused

But, I recently changed to a really nice old school 
solution that contains two tablespoons of Murphy's Oil 
Soap. 
It worked great! cheers

But, when I told a buddy, his friend stepped in and 
said, "You can't use oil on Black Powder rifles!" It was 
if I had insulted the Virgin Mary!


 Slap fight

Somebody give me the reason behind this terror of oil?Question
 
'Cause the mixture worked great! And, I will continue 
to use it. scratch 

I just want to know if this oil thing is really an 
old wives tale or WAY over stated. I LIKE to oil my 
other firearms.

Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 6:26 am

Petroleum oil doesn't mix with black powder. It will make a gooey mess that's hard to clean. I use Balistol for lube on any gun that uses BP. Then I swab it out with alcohol before shooting.

Assuming we're talking about the bore.

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 8:38 am

Any good quality oil will work well. Before loading clean the oil from the bore using an alcohol wetted patch followed by dry patches. i use Militec 1 oil.
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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 9:10 am

I don't use "oil", but a "protectant" on my black powder rifles and pistols. In my case, I use either Barricade, Breakfree CLP or EezOX. Before I go shooting, I swab down the bore to remove any residual.

There are several tests of corrosion protection agents on the net. Barricade and EezOx almost always come out on top, Breakfree just below them, and Rem oil fares the worst. The tests consist of putting strips of steel in a salt water bath. Each strip is coated with the particular brand protectant. Barricade and EezOx hold off corrosion for weeks in that harsh solution. RemOil covered steel is completely corroded on the surface after one day.

I can send you the reports on the tests, if you like.
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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 9:28 am

Great tips, Muley and Falcon. Thanks! I am using 
alcohol, too. Hilljack told me to buy Ballistol. I just 
have not found it, yet. Smile

So, unholy 'goo' is the issue. Probably over use of oil 
causes that? Or, maybe putting oil on a gun that 
is not clean in the first place? 

"Assuming we're talking about the bore."

I am talking about the bore this time, Pete. But, I have 
been told not to use it anywhere! I had no goo with 
my bore cleaning. It was just clean and bright and dry. I love you 
VERY satisfying after using just soap and water.

But, it sounds like very LIGHT oil outside the barrel 
and away from any BP residue should be good for the gun,
yes? 

(Ron posted while I was writing... I need to absorb that.)

NEW QUESTION: Bee Wax... useful for polishing outside the 
barrels? How is it applied?

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 9:30 am

The problem with those tests is they're torture tests. I personally don't put my guns in salt water, and leave them outside. I've never gotten any rust from using Ballistol.

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 9:34 am

" Barricade, Breakfree CLP or EezOX"


Are these like Winchester Gun Wash Synthetic Safe Cleaner? 
I use this and it is helpful, but I do not get the feeling there is 
shine after it drys or much protection. It does get my fingerprints off.


I don't mind torture tests, Pete. I consider it worst case scenario and 
if it can handle that, it can handle my tommy-foolery!

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 9:38 am

You are correct, Pete. They are torture tests to speed up the corrosion process.

I've had some cap and ball pistols as well as cartridge guns develop rust after using RemOil. Never had a problem after switching to the others.

Sometimes I use Ballistol for cleaning once back home after shooting with my muzzleloaders. The rifles and pistols have been cleaned at the range with water that has a few drops of dish detergent, so the home cleaning is just finishing things up. Then, I use Barricade for the protection.
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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 10:14 am

Never put much stock in the torture tests. i hunt in all kinds of weather and have never had any problem with rust.

My guns were left unattended for extended periods of time while i worked overseas, once for over two years. Not a speck of rust on any gun anywhere at anytime.
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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 10:36 am

If I had multiple guns that were left unattended for long periods I might consider some of the test winners.

That's never the case with me though. I'm generally working with one gun at a time, and they get lots of loving.

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 11:04 am

Muley wrote:
... one gun at a time... get lots of loving.

That may be too much information for me, Pete. Shocked
lol!

I just ordered some Ballistol and some Barricade. Thanks, guys! 

Any thoughts on bees wax?

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 11:33 am

What are you planning with the bees wax? It's used a lot for patch lube when mixed with other ingredients.

I also use in on my boots.  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 12:16 pm

I have been told it may be used to polish barrels (outside) to a nice sheen while protecting. Question

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PostSubject: Re: To Oil Or Not To Oil...   November 28th 2015, 12:48 pm

Give it a try. It won't hurt anything. You can always wipe it off.

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