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PostSubject: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 6:21 pm

I'm new to the stuff. I keep hearing guys say the max is 120 grains u can load. Say I'm going to be shooting a 300 grain harvester scorpion pt gold bullet and black crushed rib sabots what grains could I use to push the 300 grain bullet out to 250 yrds
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 6:22 pm

I'll be shooting the CVA accura v2 long range model 30 inch barrel
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 7:00 pm

You can shoot 120 by volume but 110 tends to be the sweet spot. You may find Harvester EZ load sabots to be much more accurate 
The velocity gain with the 30" is about 25ft/s
Also a 250-260gr bullet will do the job while adding some more velocity

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 7:10 pm

Think I'll go with the 250 grain harvesters then. Whats the difference between the parker bullets and the harvesters they look like the same bullet
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 7:12 pm

@cvashooter40 wrote:
Think I'll go with the 250 grain harvesters then. Whats the difference between the parker bullets and the harvesters they look like the same bullet
 Harvesters are cheaper.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 7:20 pm

So I wouldn't be gaining a whole lot with the 30 inch barrel vs the 27 inch one?
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 28th 2015, 7:28 pm

Not enough to notice, but you would notice the longer barrel getting in the way.

The Accura MR has a 25" barrel, and shoots tight groups at long ranges.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 5:08 am

Think I'll just go with the 27 inch barrel then a guy on here said he hit coyotes from 300 with his accura v2 can't beat that that's a lot smaller of target then a deer
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 6:47 am

I chrono'd my Accura and my MR and not alot difference.. was under 90FPS..difference..both shoot to 200yds no problem..and will do 300yards if you do your part..just takes a bit of practice and knowing the rifle...its not really how good the rifle shoots. as it will shoot..its all about dopeing the scope to hit the target
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 1:46 pm

I wrote CVA on face book and they wrote me back saying the difference in velocity between the 27 inch barrel and the 30 inch barrel shooting a load of 3 triple seven pellets and a 250 grain bullet was 160 fps. And with a 295 grain and the same magnum charge was a difference of 130 fps. I don't know how accurate it is what they told me but I'm not saying you guys are wrong but just asking how accurate do u think they are.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 2:05 pm

I'd question what CVA says. Not us.

We aren't trying to sell you a gun.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 2:08 pm

I figured that lol you guys know more than CVA lol
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 2:30 pm

They OWN the company that sells White hots and power belts bullets, so what do you think they want you to buy!!!
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 3:36 pm

I'm going to shoot black horn and harvester bullets don't care for powerbelts
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 3:37 pm

What's the best primer to light blackhorn
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 3:50 pm

CCI 209 Magnum, Federal 209A, Winchester W209, Fiocchi. These have all been reliable with Blackhorn209. Just be aware that you will have to purchase the Blackhorn209 breech plug for it to reliably shoot blackhorn209.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 3:58 pm

Yep I'm aware of it. I appretiate all the information and tips from you guys. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 4:43 pm

In case you don't know.

When you shoot BH 209 at the range. Don't swab at all. It will continue to be accurate, and load the same as a clean barrel. Clean it when you get home though. 

Use the same solvents to clean it that you would use on CF guns. Don't use cleaning solvents made for black powder, or all the other sub powders.

After 10-12 shots on the range use an 1/8" drill to clean the flame channel in the breech plug. The do the same when you clean the whole gun at home. It builds up with cabron, and must be kept clean, or you'll lose accuracy. A drill does the best job. Just turn it by hand. No electric drills.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 5:54 pm

Thanks muley for the info. That's awesome info that's all I have around the house is cf cleaner lol.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 6:19 pm

"I wrote CVA on face book and they wrote me back saying the difference in velocity between the 27 inch barrel and the 30 inch barrel shooting a load of 3 triple seven pellets and a 250 grain bullet was 160 fps."

I don't know why any sane person would want to shoot 3 pellets of 777 (150 gr.). Only masochists need to apply. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 6:20 pm

Also, The first time you load it and seat the bullet on the powder, MARK your ram rod, so you will have a witness mark on it, that way you will know if it is loaded or if you might have been talking and loaded it twice, or you have not seated the bullet all the way. Better to be safe than sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 29th 2015, 7:31 pm

I hope my gun shop has the CVA accura v2 standard in stock he had one on the shelf but they go off the shelf pretty fast. I'm going to put money down on it next week as soon as the guy that is buying my pistol off me finishes paying me off
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 6:36 am

Well I decided I'm going to pick up a CVA wolf since my season starts on Jan 9-12. I didn't have enough time to save up enough money for the accurate but I will this summer and my son can use the wolf next gun season and I'll have my accura by then
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 6:38 am

Who knows I might end up liking the wolf so much I might not get the accura my shots at were I hunt average 25-231 yrds
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 7:42 am

Great little gun, light weight, nice crisp trigger, and accurate it might surprise you.

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