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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 8:08 am

Try to get the SS Wolf if you can.

Also, what's your budget? You might be able to get an Optima from Carlos. I'll bet anything his prices will beat your dealers, and he'll set it up for BH 209 without you having to buy a BH 209 breech plug. He'll set the head space for you too. It will come ready to shoot BH 209 for no extra expense, and a better price on the gun on top of that.

You can talk to him here by PM, or call him at the Gun Shop. I suggest a PM, because of the holiday.

We all buy from him.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 9:22 am

My buddy lent me an hr single shot 12 gauge slug gun and I love carrying that thing around
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:04 am

Well I picked up some bullets today I know everybody doesnt like power belts but I picked up a pack of the 271 grain platinums. I figure Ill push them with 100 grains of triple 7 and light the powder with winchester primers. Should make good for 20-35 yrd shots inside the woods
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:06 am

The harder you push them. The quicker they fail. Use less powder at that range.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:14 am

You'll be fine with that 270 Platinum and 100gr t7 pellets. That should be a good shooting load. Just make sure you swab between each shot for best accuracy and safety.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:20 am

Now when u guys say you swab what do u use a dry patch or what do u use?
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:20 am

He didn't say pellets. Less powder will have less chance to overexpand.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:21 am

That's what I'll b using is pellets
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:23 am

You shouldn't have said powder then. I still say it's too much load for 20yds for a weak bullet like the Powerbelt.

Now Jon will say it isn't weak.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:24 am

With the platniums u can shoot 150 grains with them but for 20-35 yrd shots in the woods I'll be hunting there is no need for a magnum load
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:26 am

Its thick and swampy around my area so I like a big bullet so they don't go far
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:31 am

@cvashooter40 wrote:
With the platniums u can shoot 150 grains with them but for 20-35 yrd shots in the woods I'll be hunting there is no need for a magnum load
That's a load if you shoot long distance. The bullet will have slowed down by then. That's what CVA says.

I think 150gr is too much for any distance. It's hardly ever the most accurate load. Which is needed at long distance.

You should stop listening to what CVA says, and ask us first. We have the experience, and will tell you the truth.


However, if you're shooting pellets. Go ahead and use the 100gr. Try to not hit the shoulder. The bullet at that range will either fracture, or pancake on bone.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 11:33 am

Its the Platinum, it will hold together better than the aerotip (copper) powerbelt. 100gr with that 270gr plat will do fine. Put it right behind the shoulder, into the lungs and you'll have a short tracking job, if any.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   December 31st 2015, 2:10 pm

Yep I always aim behind the shoulder
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 6th 2016, 8:57 pm

@FrontierGander wrote:
CCI 209 Magnum, Federal 209A, Winchester W209, Fiocchi. These have all been reliable with Blackhorn209. Just be aware that you will have to purchase the Blackhorn209 breech plug for it to reliably shoot blackhorn209.
i have a TC that has a curved cup on the powder side of the breech plug (technical terms : ) Would i need a different plug for the B209 powder? what is different about them?
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 6th 2016, 9:07 pm

Which model gun?

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 6th 2016, 10:55 pm

i think it is the omega, thumb-hole and drop down trigger assembly
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 7th 2016, 7:28 am

If it's an Omega you have the best factory made breech plug there is for using BH 209. You need no changes at all. Just make sure you use full strength 209 shotgun primers. Don't use any of the 209 primers made for muzzleloaders. They're too weak, and aren't made for BH 209.

Use Ferderal 209a, CCI regular or mag, Winchester etc.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 7th 2016, 8:35 am

thanks, my buddy has a winchester .45 cal inline. is there a way to tell how that would work with bh209? can you tell by looking at it? is it the concave face?
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 7th 2016, 8:53 am

I don't know a lot about that gun. I believe it's a CVA Firebolt made for Winchester. I know nothing other than that. Does it use a 209 primer?

I worry about early CVA guns being strong enough.

I'd wait until Jon chimes in on this. He knows about the early CVA's better.

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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 7th 2016, 11:36 am

If its a bolt action, its a no go unless modified. Even the Winchester apex which looks like the omega is a SO-SO, normally those plugs have to be modded.
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PostSubject: Re: black born powder   January 8th 2016, 10:43 pm

Not a bolt, it has the same drop down trigger assembly to access the 209 primer.  I am pretty sure it is an Apex and has a smaller arc concave face.
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