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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 5:11 am

I was always taught to let the shot surprise you after breathing out and gently squeezing the trigger. 
This has always worked for me. Until it didn't. Shocked

With a flintlock, surprise is not possible. The hammer fall into the frizzen can surprise you, but the shot can't. 
So, this implies another step that only flinters would know. Suspect

What advice do you have for after the hammer falls and the follow through into the shot? 
Surely there is something simple, like letting the shot surprise you? Question

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 6:42 am

There's not much of a surprise with a set trigger. I always know when it's going off. What I did with a flinter was concentrate on keeping the sights on the target well after the shot went off. Some call it follow through, but follow through for me was when trap shooting. A flinter is more like staying frozen for as long as possible.

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 3:38 pm

Try shooting many shots from a solid rest or sandbags until you get to know your gun better and its individual ignition idiosyncrasies. This will develop muscle memory and also help you to fine tune your pan, flint-frizzen angle,and type of flint to get better "instant" ignition. Then graduate to offhand shooting.
This may require opening your touch hole, inverting the flint or, having the frizzen rehardened.

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 5:28 pm

Lots of practice dry firing
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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 5:35 pm

I just bought a Primos Group Therapy Deluxe Shooting Rest.
I intend to bench shoot it to check the sights. I will follow both Bob's and Pete's 
advice.

I will let you know how this works. It is much cheaper then the 'lead sleds.' 
I have high hopes.

Ah, I hear you FG!
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 8:03 pm

Keep aiming!!  Observe where the front sight was at recoil, which way the rifle recoiled (up and right, left, straight back). By the time you've done this the ball has hit the target. I still call it "follow through". 
TC
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 8:51 pm

@Standing Bear wrote:
Keep aiming!!  Observe where the front sight was at recoil, which way the rifle recoiled (up and right, left, straight back). By the time you've done this the ball has hit the target. I still call it "follow through". 
TC

Thanks S.B.! Will do. I do want to blink at the hammer drop.

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 4th 2016, 8:55 pm

Concentrate on the front sight. Ignore the flash.

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 8:39 am

I do the same thing. I keep aiming. But being a lefty I believe makes it somewhat more difficult with a RH flintlock. The flash is only inches from your face. One thing that help me a lot is a peep once it became legal here in PA. With my right eye closed and looking through the peep the flash is obscured a lot more.
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 9:33 am

Wear eye protection !!!!  
  
Even if you're young, have great eyesight and don't flinch. I got some cheater readers that are like bifocal. The lenses are large but plain on top. The little half moon diopter at the bottom come in several strengths (handy if you're over 40). Knowing your eyes are protected will help you be less concerned about pan flash. Also, long ago maybe in the '80s I picked a sliver of flint from between my eyebrows but thanks to shooting glasses no real harm just a trickle of blood down one side of my nose.  Caps can cause shrapnel, too. 
TC
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 10:21 am

Wore glasses all my life and flinters still make me flinch from the flash, off bench can shoot decent but freehand I suck.. pretty much gave up on hunting with them years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 10:46 am

Its just a mind over matter thing, dbowling.  If you don't mind, it don't matter.  Very Happy  Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You are correct eye protection won't cure flint flinch but it MAY make you LESS concerned with the pan flash ( would that be panaphobia or flashaphobia?). I know I feel better about it and. An concentrate on the front sight. 
TC
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 11:06 am

I wear glasses all the time. Good to know I am doing something right! Cool

It's also nice to know I am not alone with this issue.

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"One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy 
over the good fortune of others." 
― Robert Heinlein


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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 11:17 am

I suck at off hand shooting to but when I,m hunting I either carry cross sticks or I make sure I take a rest of some source, tree, rock or off my knee
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 11:48 am

My problem with a flintlock is a slow or hang-fire. I let my left arm drop from the weight of the 42" barrel if the gun doesn't shoot quickly. If it goes off normally, no problem. If I have a rest, no problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 11:49 am

Doesn't bother me with percussion or inlines but cant get past the flash on the Flinters, shot one for almost 2 yrs and still couldn't get over it, my mind must not be very strong:)
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 11:52 am

@dbowling wrote:
Doesn't bother me with percussion or inlines but cant get past the flash on the Flinters, shot one for almost 2 yrs and still couldn't get over it, my mind must not be very strong:)

The trouble is you're too young and aware. Get old and oblivious to everything and you'll be fine. Sleep

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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 12:34 pm

guess I will just have to wait and see... Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Flinter Secrets   Flinter Secrets EmptyJanuary 8th 2016, 2:37 pm

It won't get better unless you were an airhead to begin with.  Very Happy

I'm the same as I always was mentally.

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Pete

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