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PostSubject: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-19, 17:25

who makes a drop in barrel for cva or tc- thanks
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-21, 18:22

I just checked Deer Creek and they still have  sidelock barrels for CVA.

   -Joe
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-21, 18:24

According to a recent email exchange with track of the wolf, green mountain has some military/civilian barrel contracts and they may be resuming the production of muzzleloader barrels later this year, hopefully to include those for t/c.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-21, 19:02

That's not the story I heard. TC has no more breech plugs to sell tp GM. I doubt you'll see anymore TC drop-ins.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-21, 20:05

As far as I know GM didn't use breech plugs from TC. Track sells TC style plugs with different threads. Some fit TC and some fit GM and maybe even other thds.  I bought a drop in from Track several years but they didn't have it in flint so I bought one of their's to fit the GM thds and had them install it before shipping.  I hope they do become more available soon. I just used 2 that were hard to find. 
TC
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 06:19

Track of the Wolf, Inc.
[url=x-apple-data-detectors://0/0]18308 Joplin Street North West[/url]
[url=x-apple-data-detectors://0/0]Elk River, MN 55330-1773[/url] 
Phone:   [url=tel:763-633-2500]763-633-2500[/url] 
Fax:     [url=tel:763-633-2550]763-633-2550[/url] 
Website: www.trackofthewolf.com 

Dear Steven:

We hope that Green Mountain Rifle Barrel Company will complete their military and civilian contracts late this year, and resume muzzle loading production.

Keep watching our web site,

David S. Ripplinger



Steven Kaminski


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I am in need of a replacement barrel for a 1975 Thompson Center Hawken Percussion Rifle, 28-32" [url=x-apple-data-detectors://5]1:32[/url], or [url=x-apple-data-detectors://6]1:28[/url] twist 15/16", can this be done?

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/998/1
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 08:03

Doesn't make sense. GM didn't stop selling barrels to shops. They just quit making the drop in barrels, because they needed breech plugs.

I'll call GM today to find out the real story.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 08:09

That would be awesome, as, although mine seems to be pretty accurate still, it went through a period of neglect and I'm a bit anal-so I'd love to be able to replace it-even with a standard 1:48 twist.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 08:56

I just got off the phone with GM. Just like  said they won't be making anymore, but it's for a reason other than I though. They did say the breech plugs were getting hard to find, but the real reason is the demand dropped off too much for them to continue making them.

They never stopped making the barrels, so you can put one together yourself, or have a gunsmith do it. Maybe that's what TOW is doing, but nobody will be getting a drop in from GM.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 15:01

Muley that's the thing, I'm not finding a barrel on gm's website with a faster twist than 1:60- they are not making the 1:48 twist barrel, or if they are then I'm looking in the wrong place. I'd buy one and have a gunsmith put on the breech plug, I think that's what TOW is referring to.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 15:04

I never knew GM made a 1-48 twist? It seemed like they were 1-70 for PRB or 1-32 for conicals.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 15:16

They may never have, 1:32 would be great as well, but no dice-eventually I will run across something-thanks for making the phone call, though-it helps to steer me in the right direction.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 15:26

The 1-32 comes up for sale now and then. Check ebay. I never see the 1-70 PRB barrel for sale anymore. I had one on a Renegade a few years ago. What a good shooter it was.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 16:29

1:70, or 1:60 would be my next acquisition-that is after i fix my delinquent behavior with the current barrel. I was never able to shoot prb's through this one, but it shoots conicals and hornady xtp's great.
Anyway, thanks for the insight.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 19:48

The .40 drop in I did last month was a 1/48 twist.  They still show on the web site. 

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/15-16-black-powder-barrel-40-caliber-42/
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-22, 20:22

That's normal for a .40. You'll notice he uses 1-70 for the .50.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 06:56

OP did not specify a caliber, only that a 48 wasn't offered. But you are correct about the twist in .50 barrels.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 07:15

He didn't, but the majority of TC's used for hunting are at least a .50.

For sure it's not a .40. Even the GM .45 is 1-60.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 15:55

Really?  So no one hunts small game?  And a .40 is illegal for deer in every state?
TC
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 16:19

Its not legal in colorado with round ball.  .40cal Conical its ok for deer, antelope and bear.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 16:52

The op did not state what caliber, i happened to be looking as well, and a recent contact with TOW, and i am looking for a .50. Sorry i may have derailed things, and really, mine is shooting pretty dang good, but i have become quite anal in my older, somewhat wiser configuration. Anyway, someone must be making a fast twist (48 or faster) for the .50, cause both Lyman and Traditions are offering a 1:48,1:32 or both-it seems from all the websites ive visited, and all the posts ive read, there is a demand, just a very hard animal to come by.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 17:21

What gun do you have SKami?
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 17:36

1975-1976 T/C Hawken .50cal 1:48, i went thru a rough patch 8-10 yrs ago and my muzzleloaders were neglected a bit. Recently jumped back in with both feet, and am not proud of the condition of the barrels on a few ( rem 700ml, the T/C, and a CVA Magbolt) i cleaned 'em all up, and ran some bore paste thru them, and actually all shoot pretty accurate, but not like my new Accura. I dont expect the T/C to be a nail driver, and honestly shoots 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards with open sights, but my eyes are tired, so i just installed a Lyman 57sml? peep and will try that tomorrow(incidently, i was never able to shoot prb's through it, but hornady 250 grain xtp's in a harvester smooth sabot seem to shoot well enough). Eventually i will find a replacement barrel for the T/C in 32, or 48, already workin on a new barrel for the remington, and the magbolt is fine the way it sits. Sorry-i went on a tangent-old age again!
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 17:40

That, or have Hoyt bore is out to a 54 or even reline it to .50cal and give you what ever twist you want.  I think the price is something like $150 out the door.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 18:01

I considered that, as ive read some posts that have recommended Hoyt, but then id have to buy more boolits😳
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-23, 18:29

@Standing Bear wrote:
Really?  So no one hunts small game?  And a .40 is illegal for deer in every state?
TC

I said the majority, and as it turned out. He has a .50.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-24, 16:01

Good guess on the .50.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-24, 16:37

Bad guess on the .40.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-24, 16:57

No.  I didn't guess it was a .40. I just stated that GM made a 48 twist.  I didn't guess or assume anything.  And I never hunted big game with my first TC Hawken a .45, just squirrels, rabbit, coyote, bobcat and other small game.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-01-24, 18:28

I went with the majority. Call it an educated guess.

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-04, 20:29

You would have to send the barrel to Mr. Hoyt to see if it's possible to bore it out to .54. He told me that T/C drilled their holes too deep in some of the 15/16" barrels to make boring it out to .54 unsafe. Now he can make you a 15/16" .54 with any twist rate you want for your Hawken for about the same price or less than a GM barrel is going for on Ebay.
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-09, 17:08

For the information of all concerned...The Gun Works out of Springfield Oregon will sell you a barrel, breech plug, nipple, under rib and thimbles for $350.00 fitted to your rifle and they will make it in any twist that your heart desires....Joe Williams is the owner and is super knowledgeable on Black Powder, his shop is the largest on the west coast..



http://thegunworks.com/



541-741-4118

Hope this helps...

YMHS
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-09, 20:21

Hilljack

Thanks for the tip. At least I know if I lose another barrel courtesy of our shipping companies that I have a place to go to get another one. I see they sell them in the white. I wonder if they will also blue or brown them for a guy. Al

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John Bergmann 50 cal Lancaster
John Bergmann 54 cal Hawken
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-11, 09:30

Has anyone tried one of these Oregon Barrels. I am just curious as to how they shoot. Al

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John Bergmann 50 cal Lancaster
John Bergmann 54 cal Hawken
GRRW 50 cal
GRRW 58 cal
Lyman GPR 54 cal flintlock L&R lock davis deerslayer trigger
Lyman Trade Rifle 54 cal
CVA Hawken 58 cal by Jonathan
Hawken Squirrel Rifle 40 cal by John Bergman
Pedersoli Penn Rifle 50 cal flintlock
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-12, 14:18

Yes I have four or five and they shoot very well....They are some of the best barrels I have bought...And I am getting ready to have them build me a 54 cal smoothbore for trade gun shoots...

YMHS
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@Hilljack wrote:
Yes I have four or five and they shoot very well....They are some of the best barrels I have bought...And I am getting ready to have them build me a 54 cal smoothbore for trade gun shoots...

YMHS
Hilljack

Dude...

You have 4 or 5???

Uhm... Can you put me in your will? sunny

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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-13, 07:49

Good to know. I was thinking of maybe getting one in a 58 for one of the three TC's I have. Im not very knowledgeable on sights and which ones to pick but I would assume that Joe would be able to give a hand with that. I may call them up next week and see what he says. Thanks Al

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John Bergmann 50 cal Lancaster
John Bergmann 54 cal Hawken
GRRW 50 cal
GRRW 58 cal
Lyman GPR 54 cal flintlock L&R lock davis deerslayer trigger
Lyman Trade Rifle 54 cal
CVA Hawken 58 cal by Jonathan
Hawken Squirrel Rifle 40 cal by John Bergman
Pedersoli Penn Rifle 50 cal flintlock
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-13, 16:28

@Kentucky Colonel wrote:
Quote :

Dude...

You have 4 or 5???

Uhm... Can you put me in your will? sunny
Sure right after my 3 sons and 5 grandsons...I am in the process of building an English Game keepers style rifle...40 cal swamped barrel, 38 in long in walnut with Iron furniture...I will keep you in mind...



YMHS
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PostSubject: Re: drop in barrels   drop in barrels Empty2016-02-13, 16:45

@Hilljack wrote:
@Kentucky Colonel wrote:
Quote :

Dude...

You have 4 or 5???

Uhm... Can you put me in your will? sunny
Sure right after my 3 sons and 5 grandsons...I am in the process of building an English Game keepers style rifle...40 cal swamped barrel, 38 in long in walnut with Iron furniture...I will keep you in mind...



YMHS
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Yay! And, it is in writing! lol!

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