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PostSubject: 58 caliber   February 18th 2016, 9:55 pm

Since there is big interest here in 58 caliber which way should I go 26 inch barrel out to 58 or I have a 32 inch Green Mountain barrel I can take out to 58. Thanks Al
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 3:57 am

Weight should be less of a factor since the .58 bores out a big hole thus lessening the weight forward. Use the one with the poorest bore. However, the 32" will be a good bit lighter with it done.

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 7:54 am

Al, caliber size is just personal preference.  What are you going to shoot, conical bullets or patched round balls. The 32" barrel with a slow twist is probably more traditional for PRB.  Put the barrels on the stock and see which one you like better.  I just had a 29" .54cal barrel re-bored to a 58.  Looks good!  Plan to have a lot of fun with it.

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 8:09 am

Smokin' Joe wrote:
Al, caliber size is just personal preference. 

Unless you are shooting trolls... 
Trolls require high calibre.  geek

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 10:32 am

Let me just say this I haven't ever had a 58 in a muzzleloader but I am going to use it for Elk hunting and general shooting when not hunting. But I like big boar and I shot BPCR for about 10 yrs with a 45-100 Shiloh Sharps. I like big bore. So I had one barrel I sent to Bob Hoyt. It was a 28 inch rusted sewer pipe I got from someone who thought good condition meant a rusty bore was good. I have bought a few TC's since I decide to rekindle my interest in muzzle loading. I haven't had to much luck with the word good condition from people. But I now have a Green mountain barrel in 50 caliber its 32 inches and a Renegade barrel in 50 caliber that you all know is 26 inches. I want to send a second barrel to Bob. Both of these 50 Cals. have bright shinny bores in them. I just want another 58 cal. So that's what I am trying to decide. Didn't know if there was a huge difference with barrel length for one. I am shooting round balls and Bob suggested the 1 in 60 twist so that is how my first barrel was done. Looking to do the same twist with the second barrel. Al

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 5:29 pm

If both barrels are 1" across the flats, the 26" barrel will be lighter and handle better in the woods. If that GM barrel is in good shape, I'd keep it as is and have the TC barrel bored out to .58cal with the makers recommended patched ball twist.

I'm sure at around 150 yards and further you'd see a slight difference in the longer barrel holding a tighter group, but I'd think its safe to say, it wouldn't be a whole lot better.
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 6:40 pm

Ya Jonathan both are 1 inch. All renegade barrels were 1 inch. Thats the reason I asked the question I wondered if there would be any difference in the length. But I do have a 28 in 58 now. Im glad you chimed in as I know you are a 58 fan. The GM barrel is like brand new. Always wanted a GM drop in barrel for a TC and when this one came up I snagged it. There is a new one in 58 now on Ebay but the guys price is insane and I aint paying 475.00 for a GM 58 barrel. Can buy an entire gun for that. Al

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TC Hawken 58 cal Green Mtn drop in barrel
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Lyman GPR 54 cal flintlock L&R lock davis deerslayer trigger
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CVA Hawken 58 cal by Jonathan
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 6:43 pm

Smokin' Joe wrote:
Al, caliber size is just personal preference.  What are you going to shoot, conical bullets or patched round balls. The 32" barrel with a slow twist is probably more traditional for PRB.  Put the barrels on the stock and see which one you like better.  I just had a 29" .54cal barrel re-bored to a 58.  Looks good!  Plan to have a lot of fun with it.

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Did Bob Hoyt do your rebore? Al
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 6:45 pm

Yes he did.  Excellent job too!

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 8:44 pm

He did the one for me on my 28 inch barrel also. Have you shot the one he did for you yet? Al

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 19th 2016, 9:54 pm

No, not yet.

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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 20th 2016, 5:43 am

I have a TC 58 Big Boar, 26" barrel with the 1:48 inch twist, and a John Browning Mountain Rifle with 30" barrel that used to be a .50 until Bobby Hoyt bored it out to .58 with a 1:66 inch twist.  I cannot tell much of a difference in shooting the two guns.  The Browning seems to hang better carefully aimed shots, but the TC is faster swinging and easier to carry while hunting.  The Browning likes heavier loads, but both shoot well.
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 20th 2016, 9:07 am

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Thanks for the response. I was all interested about how one on Bobs barrels shot as I haven't had a chance to shoot mine yet. I am going to send him the 26 inch barrel and leave the GM barrel alone. Al

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Lyman Trade Rifle 54 cal
CVA Hawken 58 cal by Jonathan
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 29th 2016, 6:30 am

When it comes to barrel length...I like to stay in the neighborhood of at least 32-34"! That length suits my vision much better for refining sight alignment/picture than the shorter lengths! I want that front sight to stand out and be as clear as a 5 carat diamond in a billy goats behind!! cheers Wink
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PostSubject: Re: 58 caliber   February 29th 2016, 5:53 pm

t up

I've got 50 caliber in-lines and side locks along with .54 calibers in both percussion and flint lock but I enjoy shooting my CVA  .58 caliber percussion hawken the most........... :rtup :rtup :rtup

Ray............ Wink

Bring on those trolls and the T-REX also. That .58 could handle those critters. :tup2

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