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PostSubject: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 25th 2016, 7:28 pm

Been wanting a Lyman Great Plains for awhile so I finally broke down and ordered a 54 flintlock kit . it came in looked well inletted etc ,got all the wood contoured and sanded ready to stain . Decided to completely assemble it first to make double sure of the fit had'nt had the barrel out of the wrapper yet so took it out was gonna clean up the extra lube on it so as not to get stains on wood and to my surprise there were no lugs welded to bottom of the barrel for the wedges to go thru .will have to wait till Monday to call Lyman when I found it and tried to call today they were already closed by about 10 minutes.Hopefully they can ship me another barrel hate having something I cant shoot.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 25th 2016, 7:32 pm

not the first one I've heard of being like that.

One thing you should try first before staining. Just rub some boiled linseed oil onto the stock and test for color. Most lymans used black english walnut and look beautiful without any stain because they are nice and dark.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 25th 2016, 7:41 pm

That's what I had planned on doing with the wood. I really hope I can do some trading with them anyway I wanted a Hunter barrel but they offer none in a kit and I just prefer to make my own from a kit Maybe I can talk them into sending me the 1-32 twist barrel in place of the 1-60 that's not usable.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 25th 2016, 8:15 pm

" ...hate having something I cant shoot."

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Dude... You look like you are covered... 
It's not like you lack options!

Tell us a little about your Quigley's? How closely are they tied to history? 
How closely are they tied to the movie version? They are a form of Sharps? 
Or, not?

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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 25th 2016, 8:32 pm

The movie version wasnt a 45-120 it was a 45-110. Most of the 120's I have ever been around guys had trouble getting them to shoot very well. But the 45-110 was a better choice I have a 45-100 and love it though its not a Pedersoli its a Shiloh. Nothing wrong with the Pedersolis I have shot right next to many of them . Al

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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 26th 2016, 10:55 am

My 2 Pedersolis both shoot better then I do . The y look pretty much identical to the Quigley in the movie nice fit and finish . Both have Creedmore sights . My Pedratti  45/90 has a 6 power Malcolm scope on it

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMarch 28th 2016, 12:10 pm

Just talked to Lyman they sent me shipping info to return barrel to exchange ,hoping I convinced them to trade out with the hunter barrel

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 6th 2016, 12:26 pm

Got tired of waiting and hearing nothing so called Lyman again to check on my barrel. They received the one I shipped to them last Friday and its being processed what ever that means. Then I was told that it should be shipped back to me in about 4 weeks . Maybe they are gonna send it back to Italy and have the lugs put on and then ship it back to me. So far Lymans customer service has not shown me much don't think Ill give them anymore of my money.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 6th 2016, 12:36 pm

I had some reloading dies by Lyman that were not to spec. The full-length sizer wouldn't reduce the diameter enough. I wrote to them 3 times and they never responded. I don't buy Lyman products anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 6th 2016, 2:35 pm

On the other hand, I have a .54 caliber GPR flintlock that I like very much.  Mine was factory finished and the fit and finish are excellent.  It sparks well and is accurate with 70 grains of FFFg and a .53 round ball...........robin  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 7th 2016, 9:31 pm

That's a bummer! The best thing you can do is just be patient and wait it out. I know its super hard, Believe me, I know! But in the end, letting customer service do their part is all that one can ask for. You're not the only one sending in a rifle to repair.

I believe Dixons muzzle loading does the warranty work on the lyman brand rifles but am not 100% sure.

I doubt they'll send it back to italy for repair. The cost for shipping would be way to much. They've got in the states worker handling their repairs. Contractors basically.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 8th 2016, 5:51 am

I sent my Accura MR into CVA to have them take a look at it and it was one week short of 3 months before I got it back.  I don't think I would of received it back even then without me sending in a couple emails asking for status.  So like Jon said you just need to be patient.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 8th 2016, 7:03 am

Being able to vent on here keeps me form loosing my patience with them, plus Im sure that they will get at least 1 email a week from me till its over.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 9th 2016, 10:11 pm

@mark1945 wrote:
Being able to vent on here keeps me form loosing my patience with them, plus Im sure that they will get at least 1 email a week from me till its over.
That's what I like a patient guy!


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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 10th 2016, 11:16 am

Why be patient with an outfit that sells you a defective product??

Give 'em hell, Mark!

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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 11th 2016, 11:12 am

I have been and am fixing to call them again its been several days since I got an update . If I don't keep the fire lit it might go out.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 11th 2016, 12:07 pm

@patocazador wrote:
Why be patient with an outfit that sells you a defective product??

Give 'em hell, Mark!
I see you don't pick up on subtle bounce breaking.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 19th 2016, 12:14 pm

Just got off the phone with Lyman again .The lady I talked to said my barrel was shipped out on Friday with the missing sight. Will just have to set here and see when it finally gets here, hopefully soon.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 19th 2016, 1:50 pm

@mark1945 wrote:
Just got off the phone with Lyman again .The lady I talked to said my barrel was shipped out on Friday with the missing sight. Will just have to set here and see when it finally gets here, hopefully soon.
I thought you had a problem with missing barrel lugs. confused scratch

@mark1945 wrote:
Been wanting a Lyman Great Plains for awhile so I finally broke down and ordered a 54 flintlock kit ... wood and to my surprise there were no lugs welded to bottom of the barrel for the wedges to go thru .will have to ...  cant shoot.
Better hope they took care of that problem, otherwise your going to have to send the barrel back to Lyman again, to have the lugs attached.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 19th 2016, 2:58 pm

Yes the barrel lugs were both missing ,but the adjustable rear sight that is suppose to be in the kit was missing also.  Doubt I will use it on the flintlock but I still want it might have a home for it on another gun I have.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyApril 24th 2016, 6:46 pm

Received my barrel from Lyman Friday. Just the barrel not the sight that was suppose to be shipped also will have to call tomorrow . tried to put barrel in stock to check fit before browning it not bad except front lug was welded on to barrel about 1/16 of an inch to far forward had to use Dremel tool with diamond bit to fit . Got the barrel browned and installed front sight and rear non adjustable sight front was fine rear had dovetail cut too wide .Had to peen it down to fit sight tight. If it stops raining tomorrow will head out to range and see how it does .

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyMay 5th 2016, 7:51 am

Finally got a chance yesterday to get to the range. Fired it over 20 times no hang or misfires worked great. After I shoot it enough to smooth out the barrel Ill start working up a load it likes and adjusting sights .  So far Im impressed with it.

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CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyJune 21st 2016, 2:18 am

I've never had a problem with any of my Lyman products, but I did have a problem with another import.  I contacted the seller & they gave me the phone number to call the manufacturer.  I replied to the seller that THEY sold me the defective rifle and I wasn't going to go several rounds with the manufacturer to try to get resolution from them.

I advised the seller that if they weren't able to help, that I'd contest the charges with my Credit Card bank and let them sort it out.  3 days later I received a shipping carton and a prepaid call tag from the seller.  

10 days later, the rifle was already received by the seller, but no word on shipping a replacement.  They finally told me it was backordered & would take up to 90 days for a replacement.  When I asked for refund, they told me about their 30% restocking fee.  I called my VISA card, and they told me to file a complaint in writing.  It took a complete billing cycle, but the full amount, including shipping was credited back to my card.

Everyone screws up on occasion & sometimes the shippers rep with their not-at-all-helpful attitude needs to be reminded that customers don't exist solely for their benefit.  Hit them in the pocketbook & they respond pronto!
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PostSubject: Re: Lyman Great Plains    Lyman Great Plains  EmptyJune 21st 2016, 11:03 am

This thread reminded me of my first muzzleloader! .50 caliber Lyman Plains Rifle circa 1974
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This photo from Google...not my actual rifle. I owned it until I sold it to scrape enough money together to buy my first GRRW gun.

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