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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 7th 2016, 9:55 am

Which is why I don't worry about Trump as much as others. He thinks he'll be able to do anything as president. He's in for a rude awakening.

The top generals and admirals won't carry out any orders that will harm this country or our allies.

The rest of the stuff will never pass congress.

Mexico paying for a wall is a comedy routine.


Bottom line is he'll have to change quite a bit in the next 6 mo to be elected. Otherwise, he'll never get enough votes. Including mine.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 7th 2016, 10:30 am

Mexico paying for the wall is easy peasy, if Congress goes along.  

Vote for hillary and you might as well just take a chop saw to your guns and learn to shoot a bow.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 2:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 2:38 pm

The only way around it is to break the Obama-Clinton chain of command or buy 40 acres in the boonies.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 2:53 pm

She wants the boonies too.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 3:00 pm

Didn't florida already make it "illegal' to live off the grid?
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 3:03 pm

They didn't check me out. I have a windmill cheating the co-op out of some of it's money and a 40' antenna cheating the cable companies.  Tease

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 8th 2016, 3:05 pm

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 9th 2016, 11:54 am

With Trump as nominee, the GOP has a real problem on their hands.
I read this morning in the Wall Street Journal, a very conservative newspaper, that the "wall streeters" previously putting the money on Republican candidates other than Trump, are now sending money to HILLARY! Of the money collected for the rest of the Republicans that are now out of the race, Hillary is getting 53%!!!!! Trump is getting 1%!
This is a disaster in waiting!
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 9th 2016, 12:16 pm

it is common knowlegde that that contributors will help who ever that can have in thier pocket...just like when Hillary gave her speeches to Wall Street...Right now the GOP is killing them selves ..worse part is they are showing it on TV...making it so easy for the Hag to win....problem is..the ELITE rebubs want what they want and not what the people want...my self I rather have a leader than a follower...thats what we have had for a long time....

just like weeks ago when Ryan said he will support the nominee 100% ..as he did not think Trump would get this far..now that he did he backs out..typical politican bull shit..say what pleases the people then when times comes to follow thru...backs out...

i really did not care who won the repub ticket ...but I did prefer an outsider...just dont want the Hillary in...she will slaugther us big time...her anti gun agenda is a force that will be hard to stop especialy when she appoints the next few SCJ ..she will tear up the constitution and have her own laws...and dont say it will NEVER happen...as it will....
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 9th 2016, 1:16 pm

Once upon a time.... there was a president, FDR, who wanted to put through the NIRA (National Industrial Recovery Act), the NRA (National Recovery Administration) and other socialist programs (remind you of anyone?). They were unanimously deemed unconstitutional by the 9-member Supreme Court so FDR tried to get his Democratic congress to vote to institute an 11-man Supreme Court and then he could appoint 2 more justices and get his way.

A funny thing happened. The Democratically-stacked Congress decided that so much power shouldn't go to the Executive branch and they shot it down.

This historical lesson may not be relevant in this day and age but it damned well better be or we are in deep shit. With Hillary and a Democratic Congress they will try to ramrod these liberal/progressive laws through and do their best to remove the protections of the Second Amendment.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/09/trump-is-right-hillary-clinton-wants-to-take-your-guns/

Fortunately, the House, Senate, and president must all agree on bills for them to pass. This built-in redundancy is our nation's greatest asset. When all 3 are of one party, terrible laws get enacted. This is how Obamacare came to be. I am always happy when there is no unanimous "triad" to push through biased laws. If it is a good law, it will pass regardless. If it's a bad law, in-fighting will usually stop it. I sure hope that's the case after November. pale

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 9th 2016, 2:00 pm

Excellent point, Bob!
The tripartite system with its checks and balances was a brilliant idea by the forefathers.

What it also suggests is the importance of the results down-ticket. Again, Trump plays a role here, a BIG role.
I have been wrong in my predictions about Trump all throughout this nominating campaign and repeatedly said he will never get the nomination. Wishful thinking clouded my vision. Tell me that  I haven't learned my lesson, but I don't think it is remotely possible that he will win a general election.

He has the vote and attention of a part of the highly alienated political right. But that is only a portion of all the Republicans. He has some conservative Republicans voicing disapproval. He has a large number of moderate and "mainstream" Republicans saying they won't support him. That large swath of moderate independents won't be drawn to him and the Democrats, of course, won't cross over.

If I am right, and the dislike and disapproval of Trump trickles down to the legislative elections, then you are looking at a Democrat-run Senate, at least. I don't think that the House will turn as there are too many seats to make up. But just a few seats in the Senate and Hillary as president, and our world changes. Hillary will get to nominate Supreme Court justices, and guess what that means if there is a Senate with a Democrat majority.
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 9th 2016, 7:33 pm

Democrats used to be the saving grace of conservatism with the southern "Dixiecrats" led by Estes Kefauver of Tennessee. If it weren't for these democrats, there would have been no conservatives in government in the fifties. Even later there was a small minority of democrats who supported the military and the Second Amendment (remember Sam Nunn of Georgia?).

Democrats don't have to be the evil party but for some reason they have evolved into a party against individual freedoms and have championed federal control of all things.

Does anyone know how this came about? I am ignorant concerning the chain of events that got us here.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 6:42 am

Dems want our guns. Repubs want our Social Security. Tough choice for old guys.

To be honest. Losing guns is bad, but losing SS would put me on the street homeless.

The way Trump keeps switching his views on issues. I don't trust him with my SS.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 6:52 am

Pete....I dont think any thing will happen to SS to the people recieving it now..it would be to devastating ...i read some of the write up on SS proposals...and it was mostly on future recipiants...it was like some money went to SS an some goes to something like a 401k plan...

they could not to SS by any means...it would put millions on the street...
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 7:12 am

I don't trust them. There's some republicans that want to do away with SS completely. What they say they'll do now and what they'll do when they have the power to do it are two different things.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 7:23 am

I think its a scare tactic...think about it..there are people in nursing home..assitant living centers...housing for the elderly...if SS was stopped these people would be homeless...it would be a very bad image for the country...doing this would be a hard pill to swallow for Americans who paid into the system all thier working lives...
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 7:31 am

I remember my grandmother come home from the store where all the codgers hung out. "Reagan's going to take away my social security", she'd cry. I would try to calm her by telling her that no president can take away anything by himself. She always thought I was lying to her because all the oldsters were fomenting panic at the grocery store and they knew better.

The Libs may cut out social programs for citizens so they can give it to illegals. They already give illegal families $1200+ more than American families.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/05/09/illegal-immigrants-get-1261-more-welfare-american-families-5692-vs-4431

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 7:34 am

@Al-53 wrote:
I think its a scare tactic...think about it..there are people in nursing home..assitant living centers...housing for the elderly...if SS was stopped these people would be homeless...it would be a very bad image for the country...doing this would be a hard pill to swallow for Americans who paid into the system all thier working lives...

I don't want my check cut at all. I just make it now. You notice no COL this year.

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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 10th 2016, 7:52 am

I did not get a COL in my regular retirement..my VA pension or SS...reason was the consumer price actualy lowered this past year due to low gas heating fuel and food prices...which is not fair but how they base it...its a crazy system..

after the elections as always the economy will take a shitter and we will get a COL...wall street will be in a turmoil...
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 15th 2016, 10:01 am

That's a question that should not even have to be asked!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hillary or Trump?   May 15th 2016, 10:25 am

@Al-53 wrote:
I did not get a COL in my regular retirement..my VA pension or SS...reason was the consumer price actualy lowered this past year due to low gas heating fuel and food prices..

I had to look up the annual CPI the other day for my renter. From April 2015 to March 2016, the CPI rose 0.9%. A bit short of 1%.

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