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PostSubject: Trust Changes in July   Trust Changes in July EmptyMay 7th 2016, 11:19 am

I am posting to alert only. I am told that in July 
the Trust rules change and become more difficult. 
I also thought this topic may also be of general interest.

My gun shop (The Armories) is recommending action this month to 
make certain Trust paper work clears in time due to pending July changes.

I confess, I have never used one of these, so my knowledge is 
very shaky. Please, step in if you know more/better. Question

As I understand it, you buy a Trust ($150 here) and set it up to include 
all those you wish to legally use a particular fire arm. If they are not 
on the Trust, they cannot have legal access to it. Trust membership CAN be 
amended: you are not stuck with it if you gain a new family member, for example.

My gun shop has simplified the Trust paperwork and I could get it done easily. 
I just do not see the need for a silencer on my Kentucky Long Rifle! Very Happy

If you die, the other Trust holders maintain ownership of any item 
covered by the Trust. A class 3 item without a living Trust member 
goes back to the government? Question  It does not inherit like normal items.

A Trust is supposed to be an advantage if you wish to own a class 3 
item like a silencer, short barreled rifle, short barreled shotgun, or 
machine gun. This in in accordance with the National Firearms Act of 1986.

Access to these items varies state by state: Florida allows it. I believe 
Kentucky does as well. I doubt New York and California do, but that is just 
a guess.

Without a Trust, it is more difficult to get the paper work clearance to own 
certain items even when legal. In some places, the local Sheriff would have to 
sign off on permission. My gun shop says all but one county has publicly said 
they will never sign these in Florida. So, the Trust is the way.

This is an interesting thing to me, anyway, so I thought I would share and invite 
discussion given the approaching deadline.

"One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy 
over the good fortune of others." 
― Robert Heinlein

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PostSubject: Re: Trust Changes in July   Trust Changes in July EmptyMay 7th 2016, 11:49 am

I used to have a Class 3 license. It was not difficult to get, about the same as getting a CCW permit. However, it cost me $200/year and sales weren't enough to bother with the expense and unannounced "visits" by ATF. Clinton was president then and he instructed ATF to cite dealers with every perceived violation that they could whether it was prosecutable (real word?) or not. Later Reagan reduced the staff of ATF so they didn't have the personnel to "investigate" (read harass) perceived violations.

Getting a title II weapon, only involves the same paperwork and a one-time $200 tax payment for each weapon. They absolutely don't have the manpower or budget to manually check on evryone who has one.

Unless the rules have changed, you must get permission by ATF to transport your weapon across state lines. So, if you planned to hunt in an adjacent state with a suppressor, you must get written authorization from ATF.

All of the enforcement practices can change at the whim of the administration in power.


"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -Thomas Jefferson
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